Midlife Dimensions


Christmas Day - 12/25/2008

[12/25 15:01] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hello everyone, welcome to the special Christmas Day chat, we will be here from 3:00 to 9:00 pm pacific time to offer encouragement and support to one another on the day we remember our Lord's Birthday.

[12/25 15:39] Cricket [Facilitator]: Hi all - I lost track of time yesterday and just barely missed everyone. Hope you all had a good Christmas.

[12/25 15:40] Cricket [Facilitator]: Swan - Thanks so much for covering for me Sunday evening while I was driving up here. With weather and traffic I was delayed and had planned to pull off the Hwy where I'd have wireless. When I was running late, I asked my sis to log in for me and open chat. I was trying to dictate to her but it was much better to stay on the road.

[12/25 15:43] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Cricket - been slow so far. No problem for Sunday, I was here and didn't want you to worry about hurrying.

[12/25 15:46] Cricket [Facilitator]: Swan - Weather was really difficult and I needed to get far enough north so that first thing in the morning, I could get over the summit before it was closed. Some said they wouldn't have tried it, but I was glad I did. Still it was so good to get to the motel and get checked in and I would have been an hour later if I'd pulled over to help with chat. Thanks so much.

[12/25 15:47] Cricket [Facilitator]: Swan - Also the room I stayed in reminded me of your advice... my kitty got under the king size bed and it was too low to get under so it took some negotiation to get her out the next morning. I kept laughing thinking how you'd warned me about that.

[12/25 15:51] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Cricket - sounds like you and kitty had an adventure, probably smart to head out and get as far as you could, weather out there can be so unpredictable at times

[12/25 15:55] helpme: Hello all & Merry Christmas

[12/25 15:55] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: hey helpme- how has your day been going? Have you had dinner yet, how good was it?

[12/25 15:57] helpme: Swanlake; Yes, son fixed lunch today...was very good. Both the boys & grandsons are out to H's now, hope they have a good visit.

[12/25 15:58] helpme: Swanlake; Dil threw a fit again today..started crying when she didn't get her way but I just refused to let her do that to me today.

[12/25 15:58] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: helpme - DIL didn't go, how are things going with her today?

[12/25 15:59] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: helpme - sorry she acted that way, but really glad you stood firm on not allowing her to get away with it.

[12/25 16:02] helpme: Swanlake; Yes, she went with them, I can just about count on me being her favorite topic to talk to my H about tonight. I did give her a kiss & hug before she left but it was like kissing a block of ice, she wouldn't even look at me.

[12/25 16:03] helpme: Swanlake; She wouldn't eat or even be in any of the pictures today...sad she choose to act that way.

[12/25 16:04] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: helpme - sounds like she still has a great deal of growing up to do, all you can do is continue to stand firm, show her unconditional love and pray, pray, pray. Awe, if she has nothing better to do than spread slander, it is on her and she will be the one to answer on the day she stands before the Lord.

[12/25 16:07] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Molly - welcome, how are you this Christmas night?

[12/25 16:07] molly: hi Swan. I am doing very well thanks

[12/25 16:08] helpme: Swanlake; My son told me 'she's depressed today, let her do what she wants'...I said 'son, there is a LOT of people depressed, but that's no reason to give her her own way'. I did tell her I loved her and I do..it's her actions I do not care for.

[12/25 16:08] Cricket [Facilitator]: Woops, I walked away and things got busy. Hi Helpme and Molly.

[12/25 16:11] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme sad that your son had to walk on eggs with her moods. I have a friend whose wife goes through heavy mood swings. Yesterday he contacted me briefly on IM but said his W was unhappy and he had to go. Very sad to have Christmas affected like that.

[12/25 16:12] molly: hi Cricket

[12/25 16:14] helpme: Cricket; Hello :)

[12/25 16:15] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: helpme - I agree, depression is not a valid reason to allow people to behave badly, but most people will for one and or both of two reasons, they are concerned and/or it is just easier to give in.

[12/25 16:17] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme - I'm sure it's difficult for you as you see you son's situation but if you try to intervene, your DIL can use it against you.

[12/25 16:18] saved inbig d: saved inbig d says hello...

[12/25 16:18] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Welcome saved inbig d, glad you have joined us tonight.

[12/25 16:19] helpme: Swanlake; I don't mean to come down on my dil, it's just seems she wants things always her way & people only what she says. Thank you for letting me vent here, she just gets to me sometimes.

[12/25 16:26] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: helpme - this is the place to vent, safe and non-judgmental.

[12/25 16:28] saved inbig d: hi everyone this is chef don I have been on before my password would not work I changed

[12/25 16:28] helpme: Well, my son just got back.

[12/25 16:28] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme -I understand completely, my friend feels he has to just go with it with his W... thinks it's hormonal yet I think it's her way of getting her way

[12/25 16:29] Cricket [Facilitator]: Saved - Glad you joined us. Are you dealing with marital issues that you think might be due to midlife crisis?

[12/25 16:29] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: hey chef don - how have you been, been a while since you have visited with us.

[12/25 16:30] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef- Sorry, I realized Swan is right, you're known as Chef Don...glad you joined us.

[12/25 16:31] LisaK: Hi Chat Family. Merry Christmas.

[12/25 16:31] Cricket [Facilitator]: Lisa - Merry Christmas, how did it go at Disneyland?

[12/25 16:32] Cricket [Facilitator]: Hey Joannie - Good to see you too. We've been getting a lot more snow, sure beautiful to watch, glad I don't have to drive in it though.

[12/25 16:32] Joannie: BRB, phone just rang!

[12/25 16:33] LisaK: Cricket, We usually go on Christmas Eve, but this year we decided to not push ourselves to do so much. Sometimes we go on Christmas Day, but my mom wanted to cook a big dinner, so we decided to just hang out today. We'll go on New Year's Eve though.

[12/25 16:35] Cricket [Facilitator]: Lisa - That sounds nice. My niece & nephew came here last night last night and left a little while ago. We're setting up my sis & BIL's new Wii (Xmas gift)

[12/25 16:35] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hello Lisa and Joannie - how is you ladies Christmas been going?

[12/25 16:37] LisaK: It's pouring rain here in So. Cal.

[12/25 16:37] LisaK: I'm glad we decided to stay home and not go to Disneyland.

[12/25 16:38] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - we are actually having somewhat decent weather here, in the high 40's today and dry. Although we are supposed to have thunder showers the next two days and temps will start to drop back down.

[12/25 16:38] LisaK: Cricket, my kids want a Wii. It does seem like it could be fun for the family, but I'm afraid we'd never leave the tv, so I can't bring myself to get one for them.

[12/25 16:39] Cricket [Facilitator]: Lisa - Yes weather has been very difficult in Oregon where I am... a lot of snow. One of the Xmas gifts I ordered is stuck north of me due to icy/snow road conditions

[12/25 16:40] Cricket [Facilitator]: Lisa - I got it for my sis & BIL as a very special gift due to all their help with my election. It has a lot of games that you can do as a family & due to my sis's prior injury/disability, I thought it was something she could do while getting good exercise

[12/25 16:42] LisaK: Cricket, my sister lives in Tigard Oregon. My mom and son went to visit there a couple weekends ago when the first snow fell. My son loved it. But it stopped the town for a couple of days. They were all snowed in.

[12/25 16:42] LisaK: Swan, does it snow where you are?

[12/25 16:44] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - it does, not as much as north like in the St. Louis area.

[12/25 16:44] saved inbig d: well I am now divorced not my choice this my first Christmas 3rd alone

[12/25 16:46] LisaK: Hello Chef Don. Long time no see. Sorry to hear that the divorce went through. Hang on to the Lord, He has plans for you.

[12/25 16:46] Cricket [Facilitator]: Lisa -My Sis is near, near Jo. My Niece is near Jo too. North of us things really stopped, packages stuck in Portland. I did get to have breakfast with Jo while here though

[12/25 16:46] saved inbig d: I am very depressed I feel like God has left too

[12/25 16:50] LisaK: Chef Don, I promise He is there with you right now, if you have a Bible handy, get it out and read. I'd suggest James. God's WORD is ALIVE. Spend as much time as possible reading the Word and letting God speak to your heart. You will find comfort and be filled with the peace of the Holy Spirit.

[12/25 16:50] saved inbig d: I am so on ssdi I can longer cook I have to have surgery on my wrist and thumb

[12/25 16:51] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef/Saved - The holidays are very difficult during this journey, glad you joined us, coming here helped me a lot. God is with you, often we don't take time to quiet ourselves to let Him work in us. Things will get better I promise you that. When this started for me, I couldn't imagine the future, now I've been so blessed and seeing God's wonderful work

[12/25 16:51] LisaK: Cricket, how fun to visit with Jo. Does she not like to fly? Is that why she hasn't been to a retreat?

[12/25 16:52] Cricket [Facilitator]: Lisa - She is afraid of flying and travel is not easy for her.

[12/25 16:52] saved inbig d: I have been a Christian for 25yrears and walked with I feel very deeply

[12/25 16:53] LisaK: It would be fun to do a retreat in Oregon for her to attend.

[12/25 16:56] saved inbig d: I don’t know if it’s hormones or that my wife is bi polar or both it has been only5 weeks since divorce

[12/25 16:57] LisaK: Swan, Cricket, as of now - Jim is going to be in Florida for a conference in March on the weekend of the 13-15 (don't have a calendar in front of me, but the weekend right by the 15th.). He's having me try for Tampa the weekend before or after. I went back through the facilitator's replies to me regarding retreat questions, and found that Swan said that's a busy time because of Spring break.

[12/25 16:58] LisaK: Chef Don (Saved) - could be all of the above. What age is she?

[12/25 16:59] saved inbig d: 48years old

[12/25 17:00] LisaK: Chef Don/Saved, yep, I think that's in the menopause zone. Has she seen a psychiatrist for help with meds?

[12/25 17:01] LisaK: dinner is going on the table. I'm going to have to logout for a bit. Sorry.

[12/25 17:02] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef/Saved - MLC does hit women too and your W is at typical age.

[12/25 17:04] LisaK: God is at work in and around you. You may not see His hand, hear His voice or even understand His process, but you can rest assured that you can trust His heart. Remember, every problem points to a promise. "We can rejoice when we run into problems... they help us learn to be patient. And patience develops strength of character in us and helps us trust God more each time we use it until finally our hope and faith are strong and steady." Romans 5:3-4

[12/25 17:04] saved inbig d: she will have live with is mistake divorce this was her 3rd marriage first since being saved this was my first I was 37 when I married her

[12/25 17:04] LisaK: There is no need to worry about the future. God is in control. All you need to worry about is loving Him. I'm glad to hear you're growing during this time. God uses problems to correct us. Some lessons can only be learned in the darkness, through pain and failure. "It was the best thing that could have happened to me, for it taught me to pay attention to your laws." Psalm 119:71-72

[12/25 17:05] LisaK: Let the Lord carry you through. Rely completely on Him. Trust completely in Him. "Sometimes it takes a painful situation to make us change our ways." Proverbs 20:30

[12/25 17:05] LisaK: "Do not tell God how big the storm is, tell the storm how big your God is!"

[12/25 17:05] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef/Saved - I know a man who's W was bipolar and adjusting her meds was important. As far as you know, is she bipolar, has she been diagnosed before.

[12/25 17:06] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - since retreat typically stays within the hotel, that isn't so much of a problem, however, airfare, room rates and shuttle fees will be increased exceedingly.

[12/25 17:06] LisaK: As a horse wears blinders to keep his focus straight ahead, let God be blinders to you through difficult times. Keep your focus straight on the Lord.

[12/25 17:06] LisaK: "You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good." Genesis 50:20

[12/25 17:06] LisaK: "Sometimes it takes a painful situation to make us change our ways." Proverbs 20:30

[12/25 17:06] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef - MLC can cause a lot of psych changes that can make you wonder if our spouse has been taken by the body snatchers, leaving an angry stranger in their place.

[12/25 17:07] saved inbig d: I was married to my work for most of my younger years I was pretty darn good chef

[12/25 17:07] LisaK: God uses problems to correct us. Some lessons can only be learned in the darkness, through pain and failure.

[12/25 17:07] LisaK: "We can rejoice when we run into problems... they help us learn to be patient. And patience develops strength of character in us and helps us trust God more each time we use it until finally our hope and faith are strong and steady." Romans 5:3-4

[12/25 17:08] LisaK: OK, there's a bunch for Chef Don to read. :o) I better sign out. Be back in a while. I'm sure more will be popping in too.

[12/25 17:12] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef - When we first begin this journey, we can't imagine how we'll survive. I can tell you that even though my H divorced me & married the OW, he's seeing the truth now. He has divorced the Ow & is connecting with me. There is still healing needed but God has done mighty work.

[12/25 17:13] Cricket [Facilitator]: Saved - We all can look at things we can do to improve ourselves, this is the time to work on us and trust the Lord with our spouses. We can't change them, but they will see our growth. It's important not to let them push our buttons & put up walls that make it harder to restore our marriages

[12/25 17:17] saved inbig d: there is nothing I can do now we are now divorced I did write to her dr before divorce and she said she could not say anything because of law but tried to say every thing was ok I know her dr she used to be in same practice as my dr she left about

[12/25 17:18] Hannah [Facilitator]: hi everybody

[12/25 17:19] Cricket [Facilitator]: Chef/Saved - My H divorced me too, but he now says it was a mistake, never got over me & not happy since left.... it takes time but they can be healed.

[12/25 17:19] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - hey girl, how has your day been

[12/25 17:21] Joannie: all, just got off the phone, gonna take a few minutes and be back on ok!!!!

[12/25 17:23] Hannah [Facilitator]: swan it has been great. Now I am tired. How was yours

[12/25 17:23] Hannah [Facilitator]: Swan did I see Lisa talking about retreat earlier?

[12/25 17:25] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - my day has been quiet. Lisa was talking about retreat, since Jim is going to be in Tampa, he wants retreat to be there around his conference, unfortunately it is also right at spring break.

[12/25 17:25] Cricket [Facilitator]: All - I need to join my Sis & BIL on their Wii - I'll check back.

[12/25 17:26] Hannah [Facilitator]: swan that is not good

[12/25 17:26] Hannah [Facilitator]: cricket talk to you later

[12/25 17:27] Hannah [Facilitator]: swan beth has her other book so sometime in January we will start study

[12/25 17:28] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - yeah if it is even near spring break, which is more than one week since schools all over the country go different weeks and they all like to go to Florida, prices will be high and for those on a budget, it will keep many from being able to attend.

[12/25 17:29] Cricket [Facilitator]: Hannah - Lisa was asking why Jo hadn't come to past retreats, if she didn't like to fly.

[12/25 17:29] Cricket [Facilitator]: I really am going for a few to play with my sis & bil

[12/25 17:29] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - just let me know when you all are ready, we will be doing Sunday?

[12/25 17:33] Hannah [Facilitator]: Swan yes, just before chat

[12/25 17:33] Hannah [Facilitator]: Cricket why hasn't Jo come to past retreats?

[12/25 17:34] Hannah [Facilitator]: swan when will you get to see your children again?

[12/25 17:34] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - just wanted to verify, that is a time when I don't have any other commitments, so good for me.

[12/25 17:35] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - not really sure, but definitely for Christmas next year.

[12/25 17:35] Hannah [Facilitator]: Swan, me too. I don't make commitments on Sunday evening.

[12/25 17:35] Hannah [Facilitator]: Are we the only ones in chat now (Cricket, Swan and me)

[12/25 17:40] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - looks that way, but there is time for others to jump in and out as they want.

[12/25 17:47] Hannah [Facilitator]: swan what weekend was Jim thinking about ?

[12/25 17:48] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - 13-15 March

[12/25 17:48] Hannah [Facilitator]: Well that puts me out because my daughter-in-law is due on the 14

[12/25 18:00] Cricket [Facilitator]: All - I'm playing Wii with my sis & bil - bowling - so checking here between playing

[12/25 18:00] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hannah - did Toby think there was a mouse, only the I is missing to what they would want to do to a mouse - LOL

[12/25 18:01] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Cricket - not a problem, I think we are all just checking as we are doing other things.

[12/25 18:03] Cricket [Facilitator]: Swan - Good, I want to help, but if there isn't many of us here, we can do other things

[12/25 18:03] Hannah [Facilitator]: swan LOL, Toby was trying to get my attention to feed him and he knows just how to do it

[12/25 18:15] helpme: Hannah; Hello

[12/25 18:16] Cricket [Facilitator]: Hi Helpme - how're things with your son?

[12/25 18:18] helpme: Cricket; Hello. Ok, youngest son is here watching cooking on tv.

[12/25 18:19] Joannie: popping in to see how things are going

[12/25 18:19] Hannah [Facilitator]: Hi helpme and joannie

[12/25 18:19] Hannah [Facilitator]: joannie, very quiet only facilitators in right now

[12/25 18:20] Joannie: girls, my H replied to an e-mail my sister had me send on her behalf. He said tell everyone MC and HN and to give my mom and dad a hug for him.

[12/25 18:21] helpme: Hannah; Hello. How's all at your house?

[12/25 18:21] Hannah [Facilitator]: joannie, PTL

[12/25 18:22] Hannah [Facilitator]: helpme, just fine, my d is doing some washing, I'm watching my Grissom

[12/25 18:22] Joannie: Then I sent him a B-day e-mail, wrote out b-day song and then put {{{{ h}}}}} from all of us to you! and he replied back Thank You!

[12/25 18:23] Joannie: All, I actually put the word b-day before the hug symbols

[12/25 18:24] Cricket [Facilitator]: Joannie - Nice to hear, PTL

[12/25 18:24] Joannie: Helpme, what’s he going to whip up for us girls after watching all this cooking channel??

[12/25 18:24] helpme: Joannie; PTL! It's cool he said 'Thank you'.

[12/25 18:25] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme - So does he cook... I sure wish I'd have found one that cooked... good for him

[12/25 18:25] helpme: Joannie; I think he's done for the day :)

[12/25 18:25] Joannie: all, I wondered if it really touched him for him to say Thank You.

[12/25 18:26] Joannie: help, I bet he's tuckered out.

[12/25 18:26] helpme: Cricket; Yes, he cooked today and also for us here Thanksgiving Day. He's going to chef's school you know & loves to cook.

[12/25 18:26] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme - I had to help my H learn to cook, also to BBQ but he's gotten better at BBQ thru the years. I have friends who's H's really cook and think how nice that would be.

[12/25 18:27] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme - Well also a nice profession to pursue.

[12/25 18:28] Joannie: Help, my co-workers son when to school to be a chef, I think it's great.

[12/25 18:28] helpme: Cricket; My H also is a very good cook, though has made it clear he no longer cooks for anyone.

[12/25 18:29] Joannie: Hannah, are you watching CSI, Las Vegas?

[12/25 18:30] helpme: Joannie; Actually cooking comes really easy to him, he also loves cooking shows on tv.

[12/25 18:32] helpme: All; Well, my son will be going back tomorrow morning, so I'm going to pry him from the tv to visit a bit tonight. Bless you all for your prayers.

[12/25 18:33] Joannie: Helpme, he needs to come help me in the kitchen then. I've got the baking things down but not the other thing so much.

[12/25 18:34] Joannie: Cricket, loved the pixs from your sisters place.

[12/25 18:35] Joannie: girls, I'm gonna go put a few things away. I'll log back in shortly to see how things are going.

[12/25 18:39] Cricket [Facilitator]: Helpme - I'd let him know that everyone needs practice...nice that he did cook for you for Christmas and Thanksgiving

[12/25 18:45] sbky: hello

[12/25 18:45] Hannah [Facilitator]: Joannie I am watching Las Vegas yes

[12/25 18:47] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hello sbky - how are you tonight?

[12/25 18:47] sbky: I was anxious to come into to chat I have satellite internet instead of dial up

[12/25 18:47] sbky: swan I am good. spent the day with my kids and my in-laws.. husband was there we just ignored each other

[12/25 18:48] sbky: hello

[12/25 18:50] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: sbky - at least he was there for the kids, even if he ignored people, they are so confused and self-absorbed during this time.

[12/25 18:51] Hannah [Facilitator]: sbky well at least you could be in the same room, PTL

[12/25 18:51] sbky: swan tell me again how they eventually can come out of it..

[12/25 18:51] TiredB: good evening all. I want to thank you all for your many prayers and encouragement.

[12/25 18:51] Hannah [Facilitator]: Hi tiredb, how are you?

[12/25 18:51] TiredB: Merry Christmas to all of you.

[12/25 18:51] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: tiredb - welcome, how are you?

[12/25 18:52] sbky: hannah we can do that .. but last night at his best friends family’s Christmas eve get together. he would go from one room to the next. . which ever one I wasn’t in..lol

[12/25 18:52] TiredB: Swan & Hannah: I am good, just having trouble being the girlfriend with my h. I want to be the wife and be at home forever with the incredible man I married...... I know God has a plan....I just need to give it all to him.

[12/25 18:53] TiredB: stumble onto a picture in my home with the ow...... ouch

[12/25 18:53] TiredB: I would rather be naive.....

[12/25 18:53] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: sbky - typically when they hit rock bottom, there is no place to go but up and as they begin to deal with the why, they do come out of it. However, some of them are stubborn and have to bounce at the rock bottom before they begin to climb back up

[12/25 18:54] TiredB: he is very distance.... kinda of taken a step back it seems....... he attentive and friendly just not like a few weeks ago.

[12/25 18:55] sbky: swan he did text my d the other night when we was shopping and said to watch the bridges and overpasses they were starting to freeze..

[12/25 18:55] TiredB: Swan: just reading what you are saying to sbky...... hmmmm..... thoughts I needed. thank you

[12/25 18:57] TiredB: Swan & Hannah: I am probably monopolizing your thoughts......can I ask...... do they buy you expensive gifts like before out of obligation...... I guess it's not right to second guess huh

[12/25 18:58] Hannah [Facilitator]: TiredB my h doesn't buy me gifts.

[12/25 18:59] sbky: no.. I watched everyone else get decent gift from my h today..

[12/25 18:59] TiredB: Hannah: it's like before...... but there is the ow and no physical contact..... I am so confused some times

[12/25 18:59] sbky: I didn’t get anything from him

[12/25 19:00] TiredB: He has totally pushed my kids out of his life it seems.

[12/25 19:01] sbky: I did however buy him some blistik and put in his stocking.. he has carried green blistik since I met him and recently when my d had surgery I asked to borrow it. he let me but it wasn’t his blistik. so I got him. might be dumb. but I thought it ok

[12/25 19:04] BETH [Facilitator]: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE. I hope you all had a good day.

[12/25 19:05] TiredB: Thanks for listening to all my questions, hearing my confusion, It's great to have a place to vent.... but maybe today isn't the right day for that. May God Bless each of you! Merry Christmas......

[12/25 19:06] Jo [Facilitator]: Merry Christmas everyone. I've been trying to get online since 3 PM Pacific. Finally, it's good to see you all.

[12/25 19:07] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: sbky - in their mind, giving us gifts of any kind might give us false hope, in some situations when other family members will be present, they might buy expensive gifts more for show, they want others to think all is good and you two are buddies, all good with what is going on. Hard to say with some too. And then again, he might have just seen it and thought you would like it.

[12/25 19:08] sbky: my h didn’t buy me anything.. I only put lip balm in his stocking

[12/25 19:09] BETH [Facilitator]: sbky when my H left at first he bought gifts for our D to give me from her. Since she has grown up he doesn't anymore.

[12/25 19:10] sbky: swan mine is sure not giving me any false hope..

[12/25 19:10] Joannie: Sbky, I've only gotten 2 gifts from my H since he's been gone as wekk.

[12/25 19:11] BETH [Facilitator]: Hannah how was your day?

[12/25 19:11] Jo [Facilitator]: sbky - It's easy to get personally hurt by what they do but if you could know what was going on in their head you'd realize their internal dialog is goofy. It's all about their feelings and their fantasy about what might "be." They are thinking about themselves most of the time.

[12/25 19:11] Cricket [Facilitator]: Hi Sbky, Beth and Jo - hope your Christmas went well.

[12/25 19:12] sbky: beth and swan I have did good through all the holidays. I remember when he moved out in July 2006 I said if he wasn’t home after Christmas I would file for d.. but this makes Christmas number 3 and I still haven’t

[12/25 19:12] Joannie: Beth, it's good seeing you tonight.

[12/25 19:12] sbky: jo from what all I have read I do understand that.. but it can still be painful

[12/25 19:14] Cricket [Facilitator]: All - I never got any gift from my H after he left at all. I think he was afraid to give a wrong message when he thought he was so done.

[12/25 19:14] BETH [Facilitator]: sbky good for you that you have not asked for a divorce, Lately people are asking me if my H married ow and we are not divorced. I have no intention of asking for one. I guess if he wanted one that bad he would have asked by now.

[12/25 19:14] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: sbky - given how they act, often going out of their way to be mean to make sure we don't get any false hope - good thing our hope is ONLY in God! I find it best not to even concern myself with what my husband is or isn't doing and simply trust God that in His time, my husband in obedience to the Lord will come home and reconcile our marriage. Until then, it is in God's hands and I don't fret.

[12/25 19:15] Cricket [Facilitator]: Sbky - Also, I bought my H a couple small non romantic things for a 50th bday and something else. He returned them and said it would be right

[12/25 19:15] Joannie: Beth, you are blessed in one aspect of that.

[12/25 19:15] Jo [Facilitator]: Cricket - It went according to plan, except eldest d called to say her h had unplanned gall bladder surgery this morning. Plans to come here Sat are now up in the air.

[12/25 19:15] Joannie: Beth, you are blessed in one aspect of that.

[12/25 19:16] Cricket [Facilitator]: Sbky - I agree with Swan completely, the best thing is not to focus on our H's at all

[12/25 19:16] BETH [Facilitator]: All my H called our D the 23rd because he said he was working the 24th and 25th and he may not get a chance to call her on those days. Thank God he called last night and again tonight.

[12/25 19:17] sbky: cricket I do goo most of the time to just focus on me and my kids. but I still have my moments

[12/25 19:18] BETH [Facilitator]: Joannie Yes I am blessed in that way plus he still gives me money. He keeps in contact with our children. If he wanted to marry ow I guess he would have asked for a divorce by now.

[12/25 19:18] Joannie: sbky, remember we are still human and we all have our days or moments!

[12/25 19:19] Joannie: Beth, remember Anna's H never filed and he's been home for 4+ years now. :)

[12/25 19:19] Jo [Facilitator]: sbky - Believe it or not, you will someday realize you did the best thing when you stopped making it all about what your h is doing. He's on a rollercoaster and if you try to ride with him you'll get dizzy right along with him. Choose to make God your focus -- take it day by day -- and you'll never regret it.

[12/25 19:19] sbky: all thanks for the encouragement.. I do have to work tomorrow so I am gonna put a load of clothes in the dryer and head to bed. night

[12/25 19:19] BETH [Facilitator]: Joannie yes I am blessed because if my H wanted a divorce to marry ow I am sure he would have by now. he also keeps in contact with our children and gives me money. He even calls me once in a while.

[12/25 19:20] Cricket [Facilitator]: Sbky - I know, it's hard. It's just that the longer I've been at this, the more I realize that the things I saw in my H didn't mean at all what I thought. When I was looking at my H & things he did, they ended up not meaning what I thought they did

[12/25 19:21] Joannie: Sbky, wise words from Cricket @ 19:20!!!!

[12/25 19:21] sbky: cricket I guess that is because our brains isn’t as fried as theirs

[12/25 19:21] Joannie: Hi Michelell, how are you tonight?

[12/25 19:22] BETH [Facilitator]: sbky Jo is right. It is not easy not to think of what our H is doing . I find the less I think about what my h is doing and concentrate on God, my children , grandson etc the better I feel.

[12/25 19:22] sbky: joannie I agree. I think it was cricket he actually sent me an email or told me that we just don’t know what is going on, on the other side of the mountain

[12/25 19:22] Jo [Facilitator]: Cricket - 19: 20 -- Yes, so true. Same thing here.

[12/25 19:22] michelell: Joannie: I'm good,...and you?

[12/25 19:23] BETH [Facilitator]: Good evening Michelell, How are you? Welcome.

[12/25 19:23] Joannie: Michelell, grateful :)

[12/25 19:23] michelell: Beth: Good evening...I'm okay and thank you for welcoming me.

[12/25 19:25] sbky: night all

[12/25 19:25] Joannie: Michelell, are you new to the chat room?

[12/25 19:25] michelell: It's good to be grateful...I need to work on that some more.

[12/25 19:25] michelell: Joannie: yes, I've only been on a few times.

[12/25 19:25] BETH [Facilitator]: where did everyone have their Christmas dinner today? I went to my sister's that just lost her H. there was myself , her , my youngest sister, my D and niece. It was good and fun.

[12/25 19:26] Joannie: michelell, its great to have you with us!

[12/25 19:26] sbky: all thanks for the encouragement . I am going to bed. night..

[12/25 19:27] michelell: Joannie: Thanks, glad I could join in tonight.

[12/25 19:27] Joannie: Beth, my family doesn't do family Christmas meal. only at Thanksgiving. That’s one big thing I miss about my in-laws, family meals at holidays.

[12/25 19:27] michelell: goodnight sbky.

[12/25 19:28] BETH [Facilitator]: All no matter what we are going through there is always someone worst off then us. I know of a young couple that lost their 3 yr old son in a car accident last weekend. Another one is a coworker that lost her father barely older then me. They buried him yesterday. that is sad,

[12/25 19:28] michelell: I had dinner at my parent's house with family....but not hubby....sadly

[12/25 19:29] BETH [Facilitator]: Joannie how come your family doesn’t cook at Christmas?

[12/25 19:31] Joannie: Beth, the family is so big and has so many places to go, we stopped about 8 years ago.

[12/25 19:31] BETH [Facilitator]: All I am going to go now. It has been a long day and it is late. have a good weekend.

[12/25 19:32] michelell: goodnight beth

[12/25 19:32] BETH [Facilitator]: Joannie how about friend's place?

[12/25 19:34] Cricket [Facilitator]: Sorry - My H called, just hung up. He returned my call about emails I sent to him thru his sis and we talked about Xmas.

[12/25 19:34] Joannie: Michelell, is your spouse still home?

[12/25 19:35] Joannie: Cricket, love reading those words of yours - PTL!

[12/25 19:35] michelell: Joannie: no, he is living with ow. \

[12/25 19:35] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - My H divorced me, married OW but has now divorced OW and is reconnecting with me... Hang in there, it will get better

[12/25 19:36] Cricket [Facilitator]: Joannie - Thanks - It's so hard when all this starts but it does get better

[12/25 19:36] Joannie: Michelell, read Crickets words carefully and plant them in your spirit. Focus on God and He will work all this out for our good!

[12/25 19:36] michelell: cricket: thanks for the encouragement, I know God can do miracles, and I'm trusting Him to.

[12/25 19:37] michelell: We are divorced as of October this year. He did it against my will....was already living with ow.

[12/25 19:37] michelell: married 18 years

[12/25 19:38] Joannie: Cricket, we have your back in prayer - hallelujah!

[12/25 19:39] michelell: will pray for you cricket

[12/25 19:40] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - For me, when I got to a point of trusting Him with my future, regardless of what that was, I found peace and did so much better. Now I'm learning that when I found that peace, it showed and my H became aware of my growth. I had no idea he knew anything about what I was doing, but he did.

[12/25 19:41] Hannah [Facilitator]: All I am going to bed now, take care, talk to you tomorrow

[12/25 19:42] Cricket [Facilitator]: All - My H called several times in my trip up here. Weather was really bad & people told me they wouldn't have tried the drive. He called with suggestions & to be sure I made it safe & has called since. Such a huge improvement for us... thanks for prayers

[12/25 19:42] michelell: that makes a lot of sense cricket. I think you really have to get to that place for them to see it. It's getting there that’s hard.

[12/25 19:43] michelell: I have no communication with my H though, He never calls or comes over.....no contact now for 4 months.

[12/25 19:46] michelell: that's wonderful Cricket.....looks like God is starting to turn his heart.

[12/25 19:47] Joannie: Michelell, I'd go 6-9 months at a time with no contact and now I'm on his buddy list and get some e-mails and IM's once in a while!

[12/25 19:47] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - Yes it is hard. AT first I was hurting so bad I couldn't imagine how I could make it. Keeping busy really helped. I exercised a lot, took some classes, volunteered at church and other organizations. In time these things really helped me grow and lifted my stress. It also gave me a sense of purpose and independence that my H noticed. These are things I needed to do but also touched my M

[12/25 19:47] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Cricket - going over the Shasta's can be risky depending on how quickly they can get to the 5, how sweet that he kept in contact to help you get through the weather and arrive safe. It has been so wonderful to see the changes in your h these months.

[12/25 19:47] Cricket [Facilitator]: touched my H.

[12/25 19:47] michelell: Joannie: was he living with another woman at the time?

[12/25 19:49] Cricket [Facilitator]: Swan - Yes I-5 was closed when I got near so I spent the night at a Best Western and waited til weather cleared some. H called that morning to let me know it looked like there was a break in weather & I should go.

[12/25 19:49] Joannie: Michelell, no and God can work no matter where or who he lives with, just trust Him!

[12/25 19:50] Cricket [Facilitator]: Swan - He called when I was on the road to remind me tips for driving on ice or snow. Nice to feel his concern, first time in a long time since I've felt that.

[12/25 19:50] michelell: Well, I'm thinking that ow is the reason he doesn't contact me at all, I know in my heart, he still has concerns for me and sometimes misses me and our home and dogs.

[12/25 19:50] Joannie: Swan and Cricket, AMEN, it's awesome that H stayed in contact during and after trip. God's timing and ways are perfect and for His glory only!

[12/25 19:52] michelell: His parents called to wish me happy birthday on the 11th of this month. They also called to thank me for the xmas flowers I sent them. They miss me and I miss them too.

[12/25 19:52] Joannie: Michelell, in time he'll reach out regardless of the AW or not. He has to get to that place. He can only give what he has to give at that moment.

[12/25 19:52] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - Yes, My H's OW got very upset by any contact between my H and I . H was very careful not to upset her

[12/25 19:52] Joannie: Michelell, keep those connects best you can, important BUT not as a sounding board for what he's doing or not doing.

[12/25 19:54] michelell: Joannie: I didn't answer the phone, it's too awkward right now. They just left messages on my voicemail

[12/25 19:55] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - My in laws stayed in contact with me, although carefully as worried about offending H. But now they are really supporting his reconnecting and have warned him not to hurt me again. It took time as he was still their baby and they were worried about him, but always loved me too

[12/25 19:56] michelell: Cricket: It's funny how they don't want to upset ow, especially when at the time they're married to you!

[12/25 19:56] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - Yes my H's heart is starting to turn softer, it's taking time but God is obviously working as he'd been so angry and uncaring twd me or his best friends

[12/25 19:56] michelell: My in-laws and I were very close also cricket.

[12/25 19:56] Joannie: Michelell, if you can't control the emotions it better to let it go to voicemail so it doesn't cause them to pull away, call back later or e-mail or something when your ready.

[12/25 19:57] Joannie: Michelell, they are so stuck in the middle. They are on a very tight rope.

[12/25 19:57] michelell: yes my h also didn't seem to return calls from any of his friends after he left.

[12/25 19:58] Cricket [Facilitator]: Michelell - Generally the OW is very insecure and very threatened by us. It is strange since they pursued our H's, but still seems to be the case.

[12/25 19:58] Joannie: michelell, that’s normal for them to pull away!

[12/25 19:59] michelell: cricket: I’ve read a lot about this and yes, it's seems to be the case most of the time. it's almost like a script that's written out that they all follow. weird.

[12/25 20:01] Joannie: Cricket and Swan, I need to get a few more things done before bed, will you guys be OK for me to log out?

[12/25 20:03] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Joannie - got it, have a good rest of the evening

[12/25 20:06] michelell: is everyone still here?

[12/25 20:07] Joannie: Swan, thanks. I actually need to finish cleaning one of my rooms! Night everyone! love to all!

[12/25 20:07] michelell: goodnight Joannie

[12/25 20:10] michelell: well, goodnight, doesn't look like anyone is left. we've probably all had a full day, me too.

[12/25 20:11] LisaK: Hi again everyone.

[12/25 20:11] Jo [Facilitator]: michelell - You're right about the script. In time the excitement of their new situation will cool off and they may begin to see the light. I'm so glad you have a good relationship with in-laws. Often they abandon you for their son, not knowing what else they can do.

[12/25 20:14] Jo [Facilitator]: Hi Lisa - How was dinner?

[12/25 20:15] LisaK: Hi Jo, dinner was delicious. We finally finished opening gifts together. My dad works at Disneyland, so we were waiting for him to get home.

[12/25 20:15] LisaK: Michelell, are you still here?

[12/25 20:16] LisaK: Have you had a good day there Jo? Are you in snow?

[12/25 20:16] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - were does he work at Disneyland? When I was at Miramar Air Station, I worked with the Marketing department there a lot.

[12/25 20:17] michelell: LisaK: hi, I just checked back.

[12/25 20:17] Jo [Facilitator]: Lisa - It rained so no snow right here in town. But there is snow in the mountains all around and out where Cricket's sis lives -- they are a little higher there.

[12/25 20:18] LisaK: He works on attractions in Disney's California Adventure Park

[12/25 20:19] Jo [Facilitator]: michelell - See my 20:11.

[12/25 20:19] LisaK: Michelell, did you get the newsletter yet? I did send you one.

[12/25 20:20] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - Disney was one of my more favorite special events places, they can definitely throw a primo party. The DCA grand opening was one of their best, I must have rode Soaring 20 times that night.

[12/25 20:20] michelell: yes! when I checked my email I was at work, so I didn't know it was in the mail. The poem bookmark looks very pretty! I loved it!

[12/25 20:22] michelell: Jo: on 20:11, I hoping the situation with h and ow is already cooling down as it has been about a year and a half now.

[12/25 20:23] Jo [Facilitator]: Swanlake - What is Soaring? Somehow I can't imagine riding, 20 times, something with that name.

[12/25 20:24] LisaK: Michelell, thank you again for sharing your poem with us. We're all blessed by it. It applies to everyone in every way. The fact of submitting all to Him and trusting Him with all. The fact that He will fight our battles and hold our tears in a jar. It's so comforting to be reminded of all that.

[12/25 20:25] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Jo - it is a motion 4-D simulator ride at one of the Disney Parks. It is so real, you can smell the oranges as you glide over the orange trees on the screen.

[12/25 20:25] michelell: LisaK: you're welcome, I truly believe God gave me those words for that poem and it has a purpose.

[12/25 20:25] LisaK: Swanlake, were you there on the opening day? Geoff and I went in that evening. The Park was basically empty by night. We walked onto everyone ride. There was a band playing in the street, and we were the only 2 listening. It was so weird.

[12/25 20:28] Jo [Facilitator]: Lisa - We took our children to Disneyland a couple of times when we were visiting my brother and his family. It was so hot and so crowded. I would love to be there in that circumstance -- sounds so peaceful. Can you make it happen when my h comes home -- 2nd honeymoon?

[12/25 20:28] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - I wasn't there opening day, they had a private party a couple days before opening day, all the military ticket/travel office managers plus 4 guests were invited. Must have been less than 200 people, not everything was open - only three of the rides, a couple of the shops, they set our a buffet, etc. But I have been back many times and been on just about everything - Not a fan of tower of terror.

[12/25 20:30] Jo [Facilitator]: Swanlake and Lisa - What opening day are you referring to, surely your were both unborn when Disney first opened! :o)

[12/25 20:31] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Jo - there is a newer park named Disney California Park right across the entrance of Disneyland (part of the old parking lot). It opened just a few years ago.

[12/25 20:31] michelell: hmmmm..what year did Disney open?

[12/25 20:33] Jo [Facilitator]: Lisa - What is different about it?

[12/25 20:33] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Lisa - FYI, Disney owns a massively large amount of land here in the Branson area, there are constantly rumors that they are going to open a park, but nothing confirmed yet. My old rep at Disney World, says it will be at least 5 years before they decide what kind of park and then another few years to have it designed and built.

[12/25 20:34] LisaK: Disneyland opened July 17, 1955. Disney's California Adventure opened in Feb. 2001.

[12/25 20:35] michelell: 1955....I was almost alive then...not quite though...hee

[12/25 20:35] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Jo - the newer park is primarily a California setting, more adult although they have been adding more and more younger children attractions over the years.

[12/25 20:36] Jo [Facilitator]: There, I was right - none of you were born in 1955. Can you believe I met my h in Sept of 1956?

[12/25 20:36] LisaK: Jo, "DCA" has a few more "thrill" rides. Wonderful rollercoaster, very smooth, does a loop. The Tower of Terror is a ride that drops you, I really like it. Soarin' Over California is wonderful! It's in Epcot now.

[12/25 20:37] michelell: you met hubby in 1956? How long have you been married Jo?

[12/25 20:39] Joannie: hey again, just popping in again to see how it was going.

[12/25 20:39] LisaK: Swan, that would be great for them to build something there.

[12/25 20:39] Jo [Facilitator]: I have to admit this has been one of the more difficult days. Last year son had not yet married so we had dinner together, including his fiancé. No use getting into it, tomorrow will be a new day.

[12/25 20:39] LisaK: Hi Joannie. Hope you're having a nice Christmas

[12/25 20:40] Jo [Facilitator]: michelell - 10 days after the div trial was our 40th. Div was final in March 2000.

[12/25 20:40] Joannie: Lisa, yes ma :)

[12/25 20:40] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - HillBilly Disney!!! I would love to work for them, everyone I know says only good things, but I am guessing that by the time they actually get anything built, I will be at retirement age.

[12/25 20:41] Joannie: Lisa, had 2 positive contacts from my h in the last 2 days - it was good.

[12/25 20:42] LisaK: Joannie, that's wonderful news. PTL.

[12/25 20:42] Jo [Facilitator]: michelell - Div trial was in Jan 2000 so it has been a long time. H married ow 3 months after judge signed papers in March.

[12/25 20:43] Joannie: Swan, LOL your funny

[12/25 20:43] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Joannie - so glad your husband is peaking out of the tunnel again, especially during this time. PLT, happy happy joy joy

[12/25 20:44] LisaK: Swan, thanks for opening the Chat Room today for everyone to come and visit at their leisure. It's been nice for those who came in today.

[12/25 20:44] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Joannie - you do know where I live - right???? Hillbilly is a common term around here and the attractions here profit from it!

[12/25 20:44] michelell: Jo: ugh......sorry to hear that Jo, but I know these men are not in their right minds! do you have contact at all?

[12/25 20:44] Jo [Facilitator]: Lisa - The first time I saw one of those "drop" things I knew it would not be for me. Who thinks of such things?

[12/25 20:45] Joannie: swan, I wrote an e-mail for his b-day and wished him a Merry Christmas - his reply was Thank You!

[12/25 20:46] Joannie: Swan, yeap, I know. I've been there once with a tour group I was leading for a trip.

[12/25 20:47] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Joannie - you got the sarcasm in my words right - LOL! Hey, life is better when you laugh and smile.

[12/25 20:48] Joannie: Swan, actually I was there only overnight and only heard my group talk so you had me on that one! LOL

[12/25 20:48] LisaK: Jo, We travel to Florida every Feb. for my daughter to compete, and for years, the family went on Tower of Terror without me, as I just couldn't imagine dropping like that. Then, one year I felt that if my little kids could do it - I could do it. I went on and loved it. I was happy when they built the Tower of Terror out here. It's slightly different, but the dropping is basically the same. It's really kind of neat.

[12/25 20:48] Jo [Facilitator]: joannie - I'm glad you've had some good contacts. I was having quite a few of those, then he "disappeared" and nothing. He has been keeping in contact with our children, though. That is very good.

[12/25 20:49] [Facilitator]: Jo - Sorry that today wasn't that good. Difficult when kids are newlyweds. But then Christmas Day is difficult without family together.

[12/25 20:49] [Facilitator]: Jo - My Niece and Nephew drove down from Salem last night and left today

[12/25 20:49] LisaK: Joannie, what was the other contact, if I may ask?

[12/25 20:50] Joannie: Jo, it's been quite a while of silence excepts peeks once in a blue moon.

[12/25 20:51] LisaK: Swan, this has been one long chat for you. I'll bet you're getting excited to get some rest.

[12/25 20:52] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - I have been in and out, watching the History Channel (wonderful Biblical shows tonight), wasn't bad at all.

[12/25 20:53] michelell: nice chatting with everyone, but I'm getting sleepy, it's been a long day. goodnight all and I'll keep you in my prayers.

[12/25 20:54] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Michelell - we will be here tomorrow evening as well and launch the new chat room on the 1st, please join us again.

[12/25 20:54] LisaK: Michelell, goodnight dear friend. thanks for coming to join us tonight.

[12/25 20:55] LisaK: Swan, I love the History Channel, the Military channel, the Science channel.

[12/25 20:56] Jo [Facilitator]: Is that you Cricket?

[12/25 20:56] LisaK: I could sit and watch them all day.

[12/25 20:56] [Facilitator]: Jo - My sister's kids did make it home to Salem okay with all the snow. Good to hear them call that they were home.

[12/25 20:56] [Facilitator]: Yes - I lost my identity

[12/25 20:57] Joannie: Cricket, LOL

[12/25 20:58] Joannie: all, I'm heading out for some Bible reading time and prayer. Sweet sleep and God bless each one of you. Love ya!!!!

[12/25 20:58] [Facilitator]: Jo - My computer battery was dying so I had to plug it in and walk back and forth to read and answer. Finally charged enough to bring back out with my sis & bil

[12/25 20:58] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: LisaK - they are showing the one on the unpublished books right now. Interesting, but I can see why they left them out of the Bible.

[12/25 20:58] [Facilitator]: (Cricket) - I almost logged out and back in but saw chat was about over.

[12/25 21:00] [Facilitator]: Everyone - hope tomorrow is a good day and everyone is blessed.

[12/25 21:00] LisaK: Heavenly Father, thank you for this special special day that we received the greatest gift of all times. Thank you that we live in a country where we're free to love Jesus and celebrate His birth. Thank you Lord for loving us so much that you sent your only son to save us. Thank you for this special special Chat Room, where we can come together and encourage one another to continue following you through the journeys we're all going through. Thank you for the amazing Facilitators that you've blessed Midlife Dimensions with. Thank you for Jim and Sally creating Midlife Dimensions and I pray that you would continue to bless the ministry in all ways that it may continue to serve you, Lord. We love you Jesus and wish you a happy birthday! It's in your sweet name we pray, Amen.

[12/25 21:00] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Well since it is just us and only a minute more, I am going to close chat for tonight, see everyone tomorrow. Merry Christmas all and blessings.

[12/25 21:01] LisaK: Merry Christmas and goodnight all.

[12/25 21:02] [Facilitator]: Good night everyone - thanks all.

[12/25 21:02] Jo [Facilitator]: Amen - Thank you for the lovely prayer.



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[12/25 15:01] Swanlakejgs [Facilitator]: Hello everyone, welcome to the special Christmas Day chat, we will be here from 3:00 to 9:00 pm pacific time to offer encouragement and support to one another on the day we remember our Lord's Birthday.

[12/25 15:39] Cricket [Facilitator]: Hi all - I lost track of time yesterday and just barely missed everyone. Hope you all had a good Christmas.

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I have been S from my H for 2 years. We have 3 children, S8, S13, and D16.
I have been Separated from my Husband for 2 years. We have 3 children, Son age 8, Son age 13, Daughter age 16.
  OW = Other Woman   AW  = Adulteress Woman   W  = Wife   OP = other person
  OM  = Other Man   AM  = Adulteress Man   H  = Husband   LBS = Left behind spouse
  D = divorce or daughter   S = son or sister or separated   XW  = ex-wife   GF = Girl Friend
  DIL = daughter-in-law   SIL = Sister-in-law or Son-in-law   XH  = ex-husband   BF = Boy Friend
  MIL = mother-in-law   MLC = Midlife Crisis   PG = Praise God   CS = Child Support
  FIL = father-in-law   MLD = Midlife Dimensions Ministry   PTL = Praise the Lord   ED = Erectile Dysfunction
  w/ = with   w/e = weekend   b/c = because   
  w/o = without   BRB / be right back   LOL / laughing out loud